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it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the unthus see amp level was very low. in the last poll it had increased to 82%. >> that's understandable. >> romney? >> no, we're getting a little bit closer to the election. people are paying more attention to the election. when you see the polls and try to understand why the numbers are so different between romney and obama, you have to understand the great majority feel that democrats represent their interests and care about their issues more than republicans. and what has hurt republicans is that very negative rhetoric on the immigration issue. that has hurt republ
it happened in 2000 with president george w. bush in florida and it's going to happen again this year. >> there was a report from the pew hispanic center a few days ago saying a record 24 million, 24 million latinos are eligible to vote. >> right. >> but their turnout rate has consistently lagged behind whites and blacks. >> not that much. the latino decision polls are usually very accurate because they're polling specifically latino voters, registered voters and the...
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w. and you are now looking at live pictures from the rally, amphitheater and meanwhile, earlier in the day, his wife, ann was greeted with kind words, by supporters at an orlando campaign office. >> i really believe, that your husband is going to be, i think that he will have as much impact as ronald reagan, if not more. >> he'll do better than ronald reagan. >> i felt that for a long time, so... >> arthel: carl cameron is live in apopka, florida where the governor is set to take the stage, fund-raising news from both campaigns, carl? >> reporter: that's right, may be a while before we see governor romney, it is lightning country in florida and the campaign's arrival is delayed because of fear that it might be a threatening storm. a big crowd here and big money raised by mitt romney since the debate. his debate performance clearly caught the attention of both republicans, who were worried about the trajectory of his campaign and new voters and the campaign is reporting since the debate p
w. and you are now looking at live pictures from the rally, amphitheater and meanwhile, earlier in the day, his wife, ann was greeted with kind words, by supporters at an orlando campaign office. >> i really believe, that your husband is going to be, i think that he will have as much impact as ronald reagan, if not more. >> he'll do better than ronald reagan. >> i felt that for a long time, so... >> arthel: carl cameron is live in apopka, florida where the governor is...
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george w. bush, john mccain, and bob dole, they could not debate. republicans finally have someone on stage that could take it to the democrats. >> focusing the mind. >> it is the prospect of hanging that focuses the mind. >> either way, you are dead. >> give romney credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out and was behind in south carolina. he pulled together in florida. he took on newt gingrich. he did the same thing to him what he did to obama. he was well prepared. he was confident. he showed that he could go toe to toe with the president, looking in the eye, and not be condescending or patronizing. he dealt with obama the way that obama should i dealt with him. >> in the 50 years of presidential debates, i do not think there has been a debate in which there was such a decisive win in the absence of a gaffe. if you have one like the one with ford in eastern europe, others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or one of the bad moments, like, i knew jack kennedy, you're no jack kennedy. but there was no sound bite in
george w. bush, john mccain, and bob dole, they could not debate. republicans finally have someone on stage that could take it to the democrats. >> focusing the mind. >> it is the prospect of hanging that focuses the mind. >> either way, you are dead. >> give romney credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out and was behind in south carolina. he pulled together in florida. he took on newt gingrich. he did the same thing to him what he did to obama. he was well...
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. >> heather: historically one president in recent decades, george w. bush has won reelection when the unemployment rate was unchanged or higher than when he took at office. what does the report tell you? >> historically the numbers, if you look at the two incumbent president that has have lost, carter and george h.w. bush, the unemployment rate was lower than the one that we have right now at 7.8%. >> heather: definitely good perspectives. thank you very much. >> gregg: right now the vice presidential candidates are getting ready to go head to head. vice president joe biden and paul ryan will talk about foreign policy and domestic policy. we'll have live coverage and analysis beginning at 8:55 p.m. eastern time. >>> we have a fox news alert for you now on the deadly meningitis outrage. cdc reporting two more deaths bringing the total to 7. there are dozens of confirmed cases in these nine states. look at this map. the rare fungal meningitis is linked to a custom-made steroid that used to treat back pain produced by a specialty pharmacy in massachusetts
. >> heather: historically one president in recent decades, george w. bush has won reelection when the unemployment rate was unchanged or higher than when he took at office. what does the report tell you? >> historically the numbers, if you look at the two incumbent president that has have lost, carter and george h.w. bush, the unemployment rate was lower than the one that we have right now at 7.8%. >> heather: definitely good perspectives. thank you very much. >> gregg:...
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in 2004, president george w. bush not only blinked more in the debate against senator john kerry, he also won re-election, so there you go. >>> up next, getting in the way of democracy. the latest news that could affect who might get stopped on their way to the voting booth during election day. this is msnbc. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy you're not just looking for a by house. eyes you're looking for a place for your life to happen. i'm done! [ chuckles ] sweet [ female announcer ] swiffer's wet mopping cloths can clean better than mops in half the time swiffer. better clean in half the time. or your money back. >>> just yesterday, a u
in 2004, president george w. bush not only blinked more in the debate against senator john kerry, he also won re-election, so there you go. >>> up next, getting in the way of democracy. the latest news that could affect who might get stopped on their way to the voting booth during election day. this is msnbc. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1....
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in 2004, george w. bush beat senator john kerry with 52% of the vote, and we all remember what happened in 2000 between vice president gore and george w. bush. how difficult is it to handicap the race in florida? >> well, i'd say it's pretty close to impossible. your poll -- your poll this week basically showed what ours showed about a week and a half ago, that it was a one-point race. and as anne mentioned, there are these economic head winds. florida is at 8.8%. people feel that. this isn't a state where we've had a thriving auto sector. we have really no manufacturing here. so you can't talk about the auto bailout. you know, we have a home building industry, and that's essentially been in the tank. the state's home foreclosure race is among the highest in the nation. probably the third highest, if i'm not mistaken. so you have this as the backdrop. and there's a really broad sense among people that the country's headed in the wrong direction, that the state's headed in the wrong direction, and it's d
in 2004, george w. bush beat senator john kerry with 52% of the vote, and we all remember what happened in 2000 between vice president gore and george w. bush. how difficult is it to handicap the race in florida? >> well, i'd say it's pretty close to impossible. your poll -- your poll this week basically showed what ours showed about a week and a half ago, that it was a one-point race. and as anne mentioned, there are these economic head winds. florida is at 8.8%. people feel that. this...
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elaine child the former george w. bush's labor secretary said the same thing. so serious republicans who understand that these are two totally different surveys, they sort of understand the process and the way bls works there's not really a conspiracy here. >> can i ask you? you've been around d.c. for a long time. has anyone ever questioned this number, any reason to be suspicious of the integrity of it? >> i don't think so. you heard what jared said earlier. you heard what all the other folks say. i love that little line that jared had that they don't let the jan tors take out the garbage until after the numbers are released. it's funny. remember last month when the rather weak unemployment numbers came out, president obama knew them, knew what the numbers would be when he was giving a speech at the democratic convention because the president gets to know the day before when his council of economic advisers chairman takes a piece of paper over and tells him. he knew those numbers when he was giving that big speech. he knew the next morning he'd have to conten
elaine child the former george w. bush's labor secretary said the same thing. so serious republicans who understand that these are two totally different surveys, they sort of understand the process and the way bls works there's not really a conspiracy here. >> can i ask you? you've been around d.c. for a long time. has anyone ever questioned this number, any reason to be suspicious of the integrity of it? >> i don't think so. you heard what jared said earlier. you heard what all the...
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w. >> reporter: at this lab now closed by the state, duken allegedly mishandled drugs seized by police for evidence at trial. she allegedly estimated the amount of drugs at times by simply looking at them and certified some drugs as cocaine that are now testing negative. she didn't just write down the wrong thing. prosecutors accuse her of doctoring evidence to change test results. >> she would take known cocaine from an area that she knew was cocaine and actually add them to the sample to make it cocaine. >> the explosive implications of duken's alleged crimes could be far reaching. we're talking about people who may have been thrown into prison because of duken's questionable work. i spoke with cnn legal contributor paul cowen about the potential fallout here. >> all of their convictions could be thrown out. and many of them, by the way, are not just drug criminals, they're violent criminals, and you might have had one drug count in the conviction, but it could have been a rape prosecu
w. >> reporter: at this lab now closed by the state, duken allegedly mishandled drugs seized by police for evidence at trial. she allegedly estimated the amount of drugs at times by simply looking at them and certified some drugs as cocaine that are now testing negative. she didn't just write down the wrong thing. prosecutors accuse her of doctoring evidence to change test results. >> she would take known cocaine from an area that she knew was cocaine and actually add them to the...
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>> a priceless moment there from george w. bush. went or very narrowly, built a little bit of a lead and kept it until the very end and more recently in 2004, george w. bush running for re-election. again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final debate, look at this, almost tied coming in, bush starts to pull away with a strong last debate performance where he made a connection on faith. >> it's very personal. i pray for strength, i pray for which is dornlgs i pray for our troops in harp's way, i pray for my family. i pray for my little girls. prayer and religion sustain me. i receive calmness in the storms of the presidency. >> calmness in the storms of the presidency from george w. bush. he went on then from that debate to keep his lead and to win that election. >> and joining me now is c
>> a priceless moment there from george w. bush. went or very narrowly, built a little bit of a lead and kept it until the very end and more recently in 2004, george w. bush running for re-election. again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final...
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. >> what is your fondest memory of your time in the white house with president george w. bush? >> that we have known each other on and off. served as governors together. probably giving him barney was -- the best thing. >> so he had a present for his wife. a form of jewelry. her chief of staff said he wouldn't like it so he'd taken it back and didn't have a gift. it was her birthday. we just had a litter of puppies. why don't you give her a puppy? >> barney was loved. >> the most watched videos for the white house. >> remember barney cam? so much fun. more of our conversation at noon. why mitt romney has the reputation of having a difficult time connecting with voters. >>> coming up, mitt romney ruffles feathers at pbs. what's the truth? could big bird survive if mr. romney gets his way? ♪ tell me how to get to sesame street ♪ ♪ on my way to where the air is sweet can you tell me how to get, how to get to sesame street ♪ >> for all of you moms and kids out there, don't worry. somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out, too. g
. >> what is your fondest memory of your time in the white house with president george w. bush? >> that we have known each other on and off. served as governors together. probably giving him barney was -- the best thing. >> so he had a present for his wife. a form of jewelry. her chief of staff said he wouldn't like it so he'd taken it back and didn't have a gift. it was her birthday. we just had a litter of puppies. why don't you give her a puppy? >> barney was loved....
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w. >>> and are they back together? new signs of chris brown and rihanna dating again, despite their violent history, and it has some people wondering what she's thinking. today's saturday, october 6th, 2012. >> from nbc news, this is "today" with lester holt and jenna wolf, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a saturday morning. >> it's good to have you back from afghanistan. safe and sound. >> good to be back. >> and you're back into the thick of politics here in this country as well. >> it feels like this presidential race has been going on for so long now, but one month from today, voters nationwide will head to the polls and that's it. >> they say it's been -- after a rough debate, a little good news for president obama. unemployment fell to its lowest level since he took office. >>> we're going to look at what's driving the higher prices. >> a story of a miraculous recovery. a 23-year-old woman's brush with death when her skull
w. >>> and are they back together? new signs of chris brown and rihanna dating again, despite their violent history, and it has some people wondering what she's thinking. today's saturday, october 6th, 2012. >> from nbc news, this is "today" with lester holt and jenna wolf, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a saturday morning. >> it's good to have you back from afghanistan. safe and...
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bush conspiracy theory, of course, was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate, when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him the answers through an earpiece -- rather by bringing an illegal crib sheet on to the debate stage with him. you see, previous debate rules have set out very clearly that, quote, no props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by any candidate, and, yet, have a loom at this damning evidence. this is at the very beginning of the debate on wednesday night and as you'll be able to see clearly here what is that in your pocket? mr. romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of
bush conspiracy theory, of course, was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate, when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him...
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. >> reporter: leonard rodriguez outreach strategy for george w. bush's presidential campaigns. we met in his san antonio home. how do they fall into this pit fall of appearing? >> talking one way to a particular group of individuals, and then going to the next event and talking predominantly to a group of hispanic individuals. it forces the candidate to look out there and now know he is talking and delivering a message that has to bring these two groups of people together. >> reporter: television ads offer a snapshot to president obama and mitt romney's strategy in courting voters. the obama campaign is using latino celebrities targeting specific issues like education, immigration and even the appointment of sonya sote omier. mitt romney is using family. he talks about american values and bipartisanship. the chief marketing officer of cultural strategy, he sees obama and romney targeting specific groups in the latino community. romney chasing the more conservative cuban american vote, obama focusing on puerto rican and mexican american votes. he says to get these votes the mess
. >> reporter: leonard rodriguez outreach strategy for george w. bush's presidential campaigns. we met in his san antonio home. how do they fall into this pit fall of appearing? >> talking one way to a particular group of individuals, and then going to the next event and talking predominantly to a group of hispanic individuals. it forces the candidate to look out there and now know he is talking and delivering a message that has to bring these two groups of people together. >>...
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if you look at national debt under president obammasm this is a guy who said that your boss, george w. bush was irresponsible and unpatriotic for taking a credit card in the name of our quids kids and grandkids and borrowing from the bank of china. $6 trillion by one four-year term, more than george bush in 8 years. >> at least, we were growing the economy, while bush was in office. we are not growing the economy -- we are growing the debt much faster than the economy. think about this when president obama came into office, the public debt --ont the total debt, secured in the form of a bond and sold, was equal to 40% of gbr dp. because of the stimulus bill and the increase in the federal budget, it was 54% of gdp. by the end of 2010, 62%, by the end of last year, 70% of gdp and by the end of this year, only because republicans control the house and have put some of the brakes on the spending, it will be 72% of gdp. everything's costing more. and why? because as a country, we are spending money we do not have. what that causes, that causes to eat away at purchasing power of the dollar.
if you look at national debt under president obammasm this is a guy who said that your boss, george w. bush was irresponsible and unpatriotic for taking a credit card in the name of our quids kids and grandkids and borrowing from the bank of china. $6 trillion by one four-year term, more than george bush in 8 years. >> at least, we were growing the economy, while bush was in office. we are not growing the economy -- we are growing the debt much faster than the economy. think about this...
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w. ♪ bill built hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the democrats striking back. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. upfront we have some brand new polling by rasmussen, the first taken since the big debate. in the must-win state of florida. governor romney now leads 49, 47, however that's a dead heat when the factor in the march i didn't know of error. in the vital state of ohio mitt romney has surged 49% to mr. romney's 50. a virtual dead heat there as well. a few days ago had the president up big in ohio. in crucial virginia romney leads 49, 48, another tie in the margin of error. with the country still talking about mitt romney's victory the democratic party has decided to go into full attack mode. the strategy seems to be very simple. call mitt romney a liar. >> plenty of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean if he was talking -- if he was speaking last night, he was lying. >> look, mitt romney had a
w. ♪ bill built hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the democrats striking back. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. upfront we have some brand new polling by rasmussen, the first taken since the big debate. in the must-win state of florida. governor romney now leads 49, 47, however that's a dead heat when the factor in the march i didn't know of error. in the vital state of ohio mitt romney has surged 49% to mr. romney's 50. a virtual dead heat there...
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under george w. bush, the final five years, we is that you household income rise by $5,000. so that's quite -- >> bush presided over the economy that collapsed and he wasn't the federal government not watching the gangsters on wall street, trading all of these derivatives. the top donors to each campaign. dobbs can comment from open secrets dot-org. president obama's re-election campaign, university of california, biggest donor, microsoft, goog eel harvard! i'm outraged. u.s. government -- i don't know that works. deloit, dl piper, stanford university, kaiser, sidly austin. anything surprise ow here on that list? >> the surprise here is going back to 2008 and 2004 and locking at the number of banks that obama has lost. he has lost wall street. >> the banks are giving to romney. harvard pinheads and the university of california, that sidly austin is a law firm. here's the romney done ogoldman sachs, bank of america, j.p. morgan, morgan stanley, all the banks, credit criss, citigroup,bar clays, dirkland, that's a law firm. the banks have gone for romney, why? >> they are gone
under george w. bush, the final five years, we is that you household income rise by $5,000. so that's quite -- >> bush presided over the economy that collapsed and he wasn't the federal government not watching the gangsters on wall street, trading all of these derivatives. the top donors to each campaign. dobbs can comment from open secrets dot-org. president obama's re-election campaign, university of california, biggest donor, microsoft, goog eel harvard! i'm outraged. u.s. government...
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w. that romney was not predictable. he came in so strong and so in charge that he basically took over the room and i felt he was sufficient in that stage, meaning the president didn't need to be there for romney to put on that show and jim lehrer didn't need to be there, it was a romney control of that space and that physical control of that space which was so dominant. i don't think we have seen anything like it before. and in probably a presidential debate. >> rose: we continue request mark halperin of time magazine and benjamin brafman, a leading trial attorney. the mitt romney was on display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carr
w. that romney was not predictable. he came in so strong and so in charge that he basically took over the room and i felt he was sufficient in that stage, meaning the president didn't need to be there for romney to put on that show and jim lehrer didn't need to be there, it was a romney control of that space and that physical control of that space which was so dominant. i don't think we have seen anything like it before. and in probably a presidential debate. >> rose: we continue request...
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tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them, but it would be of watergate proportions. for people who don't want the numbers to trend, i suppose in a somewhat positive trend -- john harwood is not, this is not hos ana hosana is it's absurd and a complete distraction from what the report says and what's happening in the economy. >> john harwood gave excellent perspective. these numbers are not a celebration. this is a continuing story line. the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just poi
tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them,...
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george w. bush, in 2000, beat al gore among white voters 55- 43. the margin was the same. how did gore and bush is essentially tied? you might not know this, but bush won the election. [laughter] in the electoral college, a cool thing that is in the constitution. eight years later, what was essentially a popular vote tie becomes 87-point below. fred talks about how hard it is for a democrat to win a seven- point margin. republicans cannot. it is impossible. if mitt romney wins the popular vote, it will be by .02, if at all. the party has to figure out how to do much better with minority voters. african-americans, it will be hard for us to get their vote for a while because the president is black. republicans have to do significantly better than we are doing right now. in the future, we have to do significantly better with latino voters. >> the republican political model is not sustainable, the current one. it has to change. one technical question -- when i look at various polls, and a lot of times the top numbers look very reasonable and consistent, and when you start look
george w. bush, in 2000, beat al gore among white voters 55- 43. the margin was the same. how did gore and bush is essentially tied? you might not know this, but bush won the election. [laughter] in the electoral college, a cool thing that is in the constitution. eight years later, what was essentially a popular vote tie becomes 87-point below. fred talks about how hard it is for a democrat to win a seven- point margin. republicans cannot. it is impossible. if mitt romney wins the popular vote,...
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not like prepping a candidate. >> was it hard to prep george w. bush? >> not so much. but i saw the same dynamic in 2004. probl president bush had not been debating in the primaries. thought he knew all the issues. he's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all the time, but he hadn't been forced in a debate setting to say these are the offensive argument, defensive arguments these are the three points i want to make and i think that was part of his problem. >> i think one of sort of malpractice moments, the most obvious was the two-minute closing statement. you're a speechwriter, you're a columnist now, you prepare presidents. how does he not have a narrative? we talk about narratives and it becomes slangy, but telling a story, with a start, middle and end and he had a two-minute closer that sounded as chris mathews said, memorably, sounded like a
not like prepping a candidate. >> was it hard to prep george w. bush? >> not so much. but i saw the same dynamic in 2004. probl president bush had not been debating in the primaries. thought he knew all the issues. he's dealing with them every day. didn't know how to frame the attack, frame the defense and he didn't do that well in his first debate with john kerry. i think exactly the same thing here. with obama sitting in those meetings saying i know this stuff, i deal with it all...
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even george w. bush said coming out of katrina, the remarks he made actually echoed obama's word for word in terms of highlighting racial bias in what was happening on the ground of new orleans post- hurricane katrina. that is actually not incorrect. what he was saying is not incorrect. but characterizing it as him being a racist, they have done nothing to characterize him as treating audiences differently, nor has he played the race card on the campaign. that is an important distinction. >> were president obama was saying to that crowd was designed to inspire feelings of racial animosity and what he was saying was factually incorrect. this is why he is either a liar or an incompetent. the senate had just waved this two weeks prior. megyn: that's what i'm saying, -- >> under george bush, they denied them the same consideration was given to manhattan after september 11 and florida after hurricane andrew. it was wrong. it was factually incorrect. he either knew that or he didn't know that but should h
even george w. bush said coming out of katrina, the remarks he made actually echoed obama's word for word in terms of highlighting racial bias in what was happening on the ground of new orleans post- hurricane katrina. that is actually not incorrect. what he was saying is not incorrect. but characterizing it as him being a racist, they have done nothing to characterize him as treating audiences differently, nor has he played the race card on the campaign. that is an important distinction....